Hey lovely listeners, welcome back to "Create the Space" In this heartfelt episode, I am sitting down with the inspiring Emily Nahazel, a business coach on a magical mission. Emily's all about empowering visionary women and mothers to step into their purpose with confidence and grace. Together, we dive deep into Emily’s personal journey from a corporate career to following her true calling. It's a conversation filled with realness, love, and the perfect sprinkle of woo. Emily shares how listening to that quiet, inner whisper led her to where she is today—a happy place of supporting others to bring their unique gifts and "medicine" to the world. Whether she's guiding moms through transformational life shifts or inspiring everyone to embrace their unique path, Emily’s energy is truly contagious. We explore the beautiful chaos of motherhood, the importance of somatics, and how to trust your intuition amidst the noise of everyday life. From big, life-changing decisions to small daily practices, this chat is all about celebrating the messiness, the magic, and the absolute wonder of being human. So grab your favorite cup of tea, find a cozy nook, and join us for this enlightening episode as we journey through the art of creating space in our lives for what really matters. And hey, don’t forget to follow Emily’s journey on Instagram and her upcoming podcast! Enjoy the vibes, and let's get into it!
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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Whatever time, whatever day, wherever I happen to be flowing through your beautiful ears. Hi. I'm happy to be here with you, and I'm excited to bring you this episode. So today we are chatting with my new friend, Emily Nahazal. She is a business coach for visionary women and mothers. Her mission is to help more women step into their purpose and power and to share their unique medicine with the world in a bigger way. She works with women across the globe and across industries to create lives and businesses that are in full alignment with their values and their vision for the world. This was a really beautiful conversation. We dipped into motherhood. We talked, of course, about Emily's journey into doing the work that she's doing now. We talked a lot about Somatics and the body and what medicine is. So it was just a really raw, pure conversation about all of those things and more. And I hope you enjoy it so much. I will be back with you to tell you some juicy details about what's going on in my world after the episode. But until then, enjoy. Hi, Emily. Hi, Cody. How are you? I told you before we started recording, I don't know, I'm feeling a lot of things this week. When we're recording, there's a lot of energy moving. There's a lot of things happening in the world. There's a lot of things happening in my life. And I just woke my son and my husband up from a nap to consult on wardrobe things. So, like, that's where we're at. I was. I'm just gonna fill the audience in. We were talking before we were recording, and I was like, I gotta just stop us from talking right now because we should be recording all this. So, yeah, we're sort of coming in hot, guys. And that's just gonna be the vibe today. A good vibe. Like, a very good vibe. But before we come in any hotter, I do want people to know, like, a little bit about you. Who? Where? I don't even know where you're sitting right now. I mean, I know you're in a room, but, like, where in the world? So just, like, a little basic info before we really dive deep. Yeah. So. Hello, everyone. My name is Emily Nahazel. I am a business mentor and intuitive guide. I work with women to help them bring their. What I call medicine. And maybe we'll talk a little bit more about that on this episode. To bring their medicine, to bring their magic, to bring their work to the world in a bigger way so that they can have a greater impact. And also make more money without sacrificing what's really important to them, which for a lot of my clients is their family, is their children. I am based outside of D.C. in Virginia. And yeah, that's just like the short version. I love that I was guessing more of like a Colorado situation based on the decor behind you, but I was, I was off. She's got like some furry things and like some. Yeah, we place is a funny thing because I grew up here and so did my, my partner and our families are here and we love that like that is our community and is so important. We have a two and a half year old and a baby on the way and in full transparency like that. We are also seeking our land, our home, our place in a greater community that is aligned, values wise, vision wise. And so. So yeah, Virginia is where I'm from and it's a beautiful place and it will probably be about where we stay, but we're still looking for what real, true long term home is. I deeply align with that. We just landed in that place for us and it was a long time coming. And it's kind of shocking actually. Like, I just. Guys, we're going to go way deep into all the amazing things that Emily does. So just forgive us for a moment. But me mostly, but this is part of it. Yeah, totally. But, yeah, you know, you know I do feng shui and so I'm all about that stuff. But I was nervous when we moved to this home, which we'd been building for four years. I was like, oh my God, am I going to have friends? Da da da da da ba da ba. And it was just like, wow, when you land where you're meant to be, things really can change quickly. Like, that was my experience. So I totally can relate and understand to that feeling. Like, this feels comfortable, this feels good. But there's something about this that's not like the 100% yes. Yeah, yeah. And I think one of the points or one of the pieces that we're going to go into is that so often and I think this experience is really potent right now, and it's really potent as mothers, and especially mothers of small children is that we are in flux and we get to be like, super again, so grateful, so, so grateful for where we are and the access that we have and the community that we have and the family and the support. And we want something different and something that in my work in supporting women, in going after their next level in their work and in their lives, it's so important for us to be able to hold that nuance of. I love this. There's so many good things about this and I want more, different, better. Totally. Yeah. Let's dive into this a little bit because I think it's something that you and I are probably both really feeling as a through line, which is something I'm, I'm, I'm just gonna speak for myself and I, I feel like you're gonna say the same, but whatever, we'll get there. Um, I have been, you know, I didn't really understand motherhood until I became a mother. I had the very commercial view in a way. Right. I am not a very commercial person. I mean, I'm kind of like a mix of like, yes, I watch some reality TV and I'm probably the most woo woo out there person you've ever met. So. But when it came to motherhood, the same great, perfect. When it came to motherhood, I was like, oh, yeah, I'll just put my baby down to bed. You know, all the things you think, right? And then that was blown apart for me when I actually had this thing that nobody prepared me for. How much I was going to love this thing. Anyway, my point is that I think one thing that we're all, a lot of us are coming to as new mothers of younger babies is what the heck? Like, where's the initiation around this? Where's the support around this major life change? Where is the elder that's gonna say, hey, babe, your life, like, don't even try to be who you were. That's ridiculous. Like, you know, this bounce back culture is insane. Like, don't, like, where is that juice? Where is that support? And I think that that's part of your work in this world. So, yeah, I'd just love for you to sort of riff on that. Yeah. So important, so important. And that's part of the vision that I have for the world. Again, so grateful for my family, for the beautiful childhood and upbringing and all the privilege that they gave me. And spirituality, rites of passage, ritual were not a part of it. I'm a quadruple Pisces over here. And so that is. So my path in this life is weaving that back in and weaving the old ways with the new. Something that I think was transformational for me, or I know is transformational for me is I started working with moms, as in hiring moms and being mentored by moms before I became a mom. And so I love, I don't only work with moms, but a lot of my clients are moms. And I really love when someone comes to me and they're not in that stage yet because I am not going to sit here and pretend that I'm a rites of passage person. That's not actually, at least right now, the work that I do. But I do think that that's what I do on the work side with folks and helping women prepare for. Prepare and then listen. Because actually nothing can really prepare you for your experience of motherhood. Nothing can prepare you for your experience of motherhood. It can be helpful to hear about other women's experiences of pregnancy, birth, postpartum parenting. It can be helpful to see their business models and what you want in the moment when that baby is here. And I will also say it, look, I only have a two and a half year old, so it's been two and a half years. I am by no means an expert, but what you want will change month to month and year to year. And I think that's such a gift of our entrepreneurial culture. I'm so grateful that I had a business and, and like, already had made that shift into entrepreneurship many moons before I had a baby because it allows. It allows and invites such flexibility, which I feel is so important. But yeah, I really appreciate that. I started learning from mothers before becoming a mom. And one of the biggest nuggets, and this is true of like any big transition, but one of the biggest nuggets that I took away from a teacher probably two years before I got pregnant myself, was that there is grief. There is grief in becoming a mother. I knew my entire life I wanted to be a mom. It was like one thing that I just knew. There were a lot of things I didn't know, a lot of things I'm still figuring out. But that was always like such a clear call for me and having that lens of, yeah, this is something I want and I'm going to step into. And there's loss that comes with that, right when anything new is being born, there's also something that dies. And you know, I'm feeling that right now as we're preparing for another baby. There are ways that, like, our family of three is not going to be the same. And that's not to the point that I already made. That's not to say it's going to be better or worse. It's just going to be different. And those truths can coexist. And I think so much of, I mean, we could go on a whole tangent, but so, so much of our challenges as mothers is in not Honoring that grief in not honoring. Not being. Having the space or the language or the tools to honor what was and mourn it so that we can more fully step into what is. And what is becoming. That's really beautiful. I just. I'm almost speechless, which is rare for me, but that is very, very, very beautiful and true. And I've. I've felt a lot. You know, I had no. No one here that's listened to this before is a stranger to the fact that I had a difficult road to conception. And so when I. And I had a really close friend who also had a difficult road. Road to no conception yet I'm still hopeful that she will. But I had so much guilt. Like, I was. I felt like I couldn't be anything but overjoyed, grateful, you know? And I think that whether people have a difficult road to conception, which is more and more unfortunately common now, that's a part of it, right? Like, you feel like you should only be able to have these one set of emotions, right? Or you're a bad person. And so it's like. It's weird. It's become this, like, mommy wine culture thing where, like, that's kind of accepted, right? Like, the cute. Kind of, like the cute grief, I'll call it is okay, but like, that deep, primal grief, there's really not a lot of spaces publicly, at least, for that. So I just think that's so important. So. Okay, well, come back to this, because I also really want to just hear a little bit about how you became this coach, that you are this wisdom keeper, that you are, this medicine woman that you are. So just gimme a little of that for people, please. Yeah, My story begins. Well, my story begins more than that, but my entrepreneurial story begins 10 or 11 years ago. I went to. I went to business school. I didn't ever really know what I wanted to do. Like, I had, you know, you had friends that were like, oh, I want to be an art major, or I want to be on stage or this sort of thing. And I just. I actually do. Looking back, I think I did want to have my own business, but I thought I needed to, like, have a. I didn't have my specific calling yet, so I went to business school. I got a job as a public accountant, as an auditor for a big public accounting firm. And this was like the successful, smart road, right? I got praised by my parents and by society and did well in that career, and. And I was good at it. But I started to hear this whisper of there's something Else for you, there's something more for you. The environment was also pretty stressful. I did that job in D.C. and then I moved to New York where it was like, amplified to the next. Even within the same company, amplified to the next level. And yeah, so I was hearing these whispers. I knew I wanted to be a mom someday. And I saw the moms in the office with me who were going home past 7:00 at night, coming in first thing in the morning. And that was just a hard no of, like, that is not who I want to be. And no shame if that's you, but that was my clear knowing, that is not who I want to be. I want to be home with my babies. And so I started to listen. I did a yoga teacher training. I did a health coach certification. And then there was just this moment of, okay, you need to leave now. It was also, I was about to get promoted, so I would have had, like, more responsibility, more expectation, more of the golden handcuffs. And so I left. I had like one or two yoga classes that I was teaching a week. I did not have a business started up. And I left on a leap of faith. And a lot of things since then have been a leap of faith. But pretty quickly after I left, I was doing health coaching, teaching yoga, leading retreats. Women started to come. 1. I was seeing a thread in my health coaching work. Women stressed I would be talking to them about their work, not necessarily about their food or their movement, although, yes, those were parts of it. But it often came down to stress. It often came down that they were not happy at work. And so I had that coming in. And at the same time, I had women coming to me saying, like, how did you leave? Like, how did you leave this amazing career? And now you're just like, teaching yoga and like posting about your green smoothies, like, show me how I can do that. And so that's when like, oh, I have this business school background too, and I've been running a business and I've been helping another woman in her business. And it all led to one thing to the other. And then the final, like, I would say, like, element that came in was around my Saturn return, which I'm not sure if you have talked about here on the podcast. Oh, but, you know, most people probably maybe have a hint about what that is. 27 hits the fan, blah, blah, Right. What I like to call it is spiritual puberty, where you're like, oh, I have a purpose, I have a calling. There's like something more than this 3D world. And so that also dropped in and I started to listen and reconnect. As I said, if you know anything about astrology, Pisces is like the sign that connects most to the magical unseen world. And so that's when all the mystical tools came back in meditation, ritual, ceremony, tarot cards, astrology. And all of those pieces now come together in that I help women find what's like a soul aligned path for them in their work and what's a soul aligned strategy for them to take. And that's a combination of like, yes, there are things we can see in your birth chart or your human design. And also helping my clients listen back to that voice within. Because if there's a through line in my story, it is every time I've listened to that voice, especially when there's like no logic. And I have many examples of this, including some really wild recent examples where it's like there is no logic here. But this is what I'm feeling called to do whenever I do that. It's like quantum leap. Quantum leap. Things work out. Things work out better than planned. And so, yeah, like, that's the space that I hold is supporting you in listening to what your inner voice is saying. And then how do we also bring that into the 3D world? Not just in your meditation, not just in your journaling, not just in a, a session with a coach or over dinner with your partner, but how are we bringing those dreams into reality? Because, and this is the last thing that I'll say about this and maybe it will lead into another topic. I so deeply believe we are in these wild turning times, as I call them on our planet, especially in this moment of us recording right now. Like the 3D world is showing us that what worked before is not working. And my, like, none of us individually can change the world. And I say that as like a sigh of relief. But we each have our own unique key. And I think I know in like my heart of hearts is when we all follow those keys, when we all bring our magic forward, our medicine forward, our gifts forward. That is when the world changes. That is when we have more supportive communities. That is when we have more benevolent leadership. That is when we have world peace. It's. Yeah, so, so that's really my bigger why is. Yes, I'm an empath and I feel all of the, the chaos and the, the wild that exists in the world. And this is how I see we heal that. Couldn't agree more with that piece. I mean there's so much in there and thank you so much for sharing all that. It's really beautiful to hear how you got to where you are. And yeah, that's, you know, that's my bigger why with feng shui as well, because I believe I call it the ripples. Like, when you align your home, you're not just, you know, clarifying and amplifying and adjusting the energy of your space that ripples out to your neighbors. And, you know, it's just the more people that align their environments both internally and externally, the bigger impact they have. So I think, yeah, I think you are like the 21st person to say to me recently, like, wow, I don't think, you know, it's not working the way it was. And it's like, yes, it absolutely is not right. We can all see that. And we can either be in the energy of ah, which is appropriate. That's fine too, right? I'm sure we're both in that plenty. And we can also be in the energy of like, okay, like, rise up, right? Like, rise up, stop being afraid, do your thing. At least that's me. But yeah, the question that kept coming to me was I feel like there's a listener listening that's like, I don't know which voice that is. Like, what's that voice? Right? That I think is such a core thing for so many women is that we've been programmed and we don't trust ourselves. A lot of us. And it's hard. It's like, is that my anxious voice? Is that like, what. What voice is that? You know, And a lot of people say, like, it's the quiet voice, but like, there's a lot of those quiet voices. So I'm just cur. Curious. You don't have to answer this for everybody. I'm not saying, like, tell everybody what their voice sounds like, but what was it for you? How did you know that inner knowing voice versus just like the mind chatter? Yeah. This is such a great question and it is one that I get. So I'm glad that you brought it forward. And honestly, my answer has changed from a year ago or it has more nuance from like a year ago 1. It depends. And often what I look to with folks is their human design authority, how they're designed to make decisions. And so if you are a generator like me, it is a felt sense that feels like being pulled towards something or being repelled away from something. I also do believe, although, again, there's like nuance with this that I'm going to speak to in just a moment. Is that your intuition doesn't often speak. There are other voices in your head that do have wisdom, that speak with emotion, but almost feels more still. And I. I do want to. So, yeah, so it almost feels more still versus like, ah, this is a raging fear or an anxiety or it has like a huge emotional charge. Now, that is not to say that we should avoid or not listen to the things with emotional charge. Somatics. Somatics, which just means of the body. But somatic practices to listening to our emotions and listening to these different parts within us have become a huge part of my work. And I think it's really. Or I know it's really helpful for us. Like, all of those voices have wisdom, but it's not always the first thing that they say. So often when there's a huge emotional charge, whether it's anger or fear or anxiety, there's actually something underneath. There's a part of us that is screaming. And this is where having a small child, you can really see it in action. Like when your toddler has a meltdown, it's usually not about the thing on the surface. There's something else underneath that maybe they can't put words to. And so I guide my clients using somatic practices, using some parts work and embodiment work, to listen to what's underneath those emotions. Because it's not that there's one voice inside of you that is your intuition. We are all made up of so many parts. And even these parts that feel charged or feel wounded or feel protective at times, they usually have guidance for us if we can listen a little bit deeper. Oh, that might be my favorite answer ever. I love that answer. Seriously, it's so good. Because, yeah, I think it's. You know, I'm a recovering perfectionist. And so many. I feel so many are. And it can be like this fool's mission, right, to like, try and find that voice so that you can always listen to it. And it's like, well, yeah, sometimes it's gonna feel like something. Sometimes it's gonna hear. You're gonna hear something sometimes, you know, Sometimes. And I really resonate with that because I've found that when something is, well, two things. One, sometimes it's a quick opportunity. And maybe you're just gonna miss that one, right? Like, it's like, do this. And you're like, no, I'm scared. It's like, okay, that's fine. You don't have to. But you're gonna miss that. And that's cool. Cause there'll be another one. But other times, if it's a big. Thing, I find that it's like, repetitively comes in waves and in different formats. Right. Like, somebody will say something and then you'll read something, and then, you know, like, it's. There's multiple little nuggets for you to notice if. Especially when it's like, a bigger decision. Right. And I. There's. There's a part of this, too, that I think is our higher selves Spirit also wants us to succeed. I believe that. And I know that's a whole rabbit hole to go down depending on your religious or spiritual upbringing or, like, even just looking at the state of the world, you're like, how can this make sense? And that is what I believe. And I've seen it to be true. I've seen clients get fired because they won't quit. Right. A job or. Or, yeah. Like, we have a conversation about something and then that thing comes to us or we get another clue. And so I agree with you that on the big things, it's. It's hard to miss. Either we're going to make the decision, we're going to see it, we're going to take action, or Spirit's gonna push us in a. In a certain direction. Where I think if anyone's listening to this podcast, like, they are somewhat attuned to themselves. They're following their path. Like, and that's not to say that we don't. Even if you're on your path or you meditate daily, that you don't struggle with indecision or with that you would miss something. I mean, I shared it. As we started this podcast, I wanted to consult my man about dresses. No, it was. It was your two and a half year old. Let's be honest. I'm like two and a half year old. And that's fine. That's fine. There's no shame. But, yeah, I agree with you is like, it's not like a one and done. Oh, if you don't hear this little whisper, like, then you're like, off your path. I also believe all of it is our path. The challenge, the hardship, the things that aren't working out right away, like, that's also your path. That's your purpose. It's not just these peak moments of cool, I'm on a stage, or now I am the mom, or, you know, whatever. External accolade. It's all part of it. Yeah, the word that keeps coming to me is equanimous. Like, I. I think that at the end of the day, you Know, God, source, the universe, anything you want to call it. Nature is equanimous, Right. Like, it's just. Yeah. So I think that that's a big part of it, too, is, like, letting go, when possible, of the good and the bad and the right and the wrong and just, like, enjoying the ride that is this, like, messy, ridiculous, wonderful place that we live. Right. Because we're not here for just like, the one note. We're here to experience it all. Yeah. And I think motherhood really gives us a felt experience of that. I mean, in any one day you can go from like, what the am I doing? Or, like, being so frustrated or whatever, to then being like, wow, I'm the luckiest person on the planet. Everything. Totally. Yeah, I totally agree. And it's so interesting because I. And then we're going to get into medicine in a minute, and I really want to get into that, but this is just a little thing. Like, I've. You know, kids, when they're really young, are in, like the record mode, right? Like, they're not. They're like, little. I don't even know what to call them. Buddhas, almost. They're just, like, mimicking back things that they see. And I happen to have, like, an incredibly verbal child, which is incredible because, yeah, she says the most. Like, she's only 21 months, but she speaks in full sentences and communicates. And so it's just wild to, like, hear what she says. And so, yeah, the day could be terrible or whatever, and then like, will get in the car and she'll be in the backseat and say, like, the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. And the day's wonderful and it's just. Yeah, it's a total, you know, I totally agree. But anyway, I digress. So thank you for all that around intuition. And now I do want to understand, like, what is medicine to you? And obviously everyone's medicine, which we're going to get into. What that is for you looks different. Right? Not everyone's meant to be an entrepreneur. Not every woman is meant to have their own business. So I'm sure there's plenty of people you work with also that are like that. So, yeah, like, tell us a little bit about more that. That aspect more. Yes. So your medicine, from my understanding is. Or how I teach about it and lead about it is made up of two things. One, it's your gifts. It is how you're here to shine, what you're good at, where you like to be of service. And I like to use the term like souls, work versus just like work. Because to your point, I work with a lot of women who are business owners, entrepreneurs, and I also work with women who are in corporate and I also work with women who are like, I just want to stay home with my kids. So any of that can be your gift. All of that can be your gift. It can be a blend of those things and it's usually not just one thing. Right. We have multiple gifts and they come forward in different ways at different periods of our life. So your medicine is, is your gifts, your gold, and it is also your challenges, your traumas, your inheritances, all of that shadowy material that is also part of your medicine. Because when those two things come together, it puts you in this unique place to offer something, to offer yourself, to offer a literal offering or service or art or thought leadership to the world. So that's medicine. I love it. I love it so much and. All right, so yeah, let's talk a little bit about, like, where you're at today because I don't know you super well. We only recently met, but I have a feeling based on just the little nuggets that I've seen from your world that things have kind of shifted recently. Right. Like with you and your work. And so, yeah, just like, tell us a little bit about like, what's exciting in your world right now and sort of like what you're stewing in and what you've learned also, like along the entrepreneurial journey. Yeah, I want to say everything's exciting in my world right now. Yeah, it just is. And I say that with deep reverence for the. Can I curse? Yes, you can. For the shit that's going down on our planet. I also believe that I can stand here and say, like, things are really flipping good and exciting and growing because last year was a year of death, literal death and business death, things, things dying, things getting closed down. Yeah. So for me, 2024 was a year of shutting things down. Closing down offers, questioning things. My father in law died. Like we were also for half the year in the preconception portal. And that is a mind fuck, an initiation. And then the second half of the year, having a baby or on that journey of having a baby, which is beautiful and all the things. So everything is exciting right now. And that also is coming out of a year of death, of loss, of grief, of questioning. And yeah, so I just have a lot of reverence for the cycles. And I know, not that I, I want to say, oh, things are going to fall off or change when I have a baby, like, get worse because they. They won't. I'll have a. Maybe that will be amazing. But on the business front, there is this, like, narrative of, oh, when you have a baby, then. Then things collapse or there's. There's a contraction. And yeah, I'm just holding space for any and all of it to be true. But what I want to say, what I'm most excited about right now is this, again, this, like, somatic work that has come deeper into my personal practice, my. My work in the last year, and specifically the piece that I already brought up around 1, no emotion or energy being wrong, and my ability, and my ability to help my clients work with this and why this is also so, so exciting for me. And maybe I'll give a specific example because it can feel very heady and then we can, like, ground it into the body. Um, but I can feel how I am moving through challenge, through pressure, through intensity, differently. And that excites me for this next literal birth. I was just thinking I had a very, very long, very hard, very physical labor with my son, and I want a different experience. And I've also had, like, I don't want to say my career has. Has had its ebbs and flows, it's had its. Its expansions and contractions. And I'm very proud to stand here and say for the last 10 years, I've supported myself through my business. You know, there's a lot of folks on the Internet who can say, oh, I made six figures or seven figures or look at my cash yet. And like, that's valid. And I'm really proud to say I've supported myself and now a family for 10 years, like, that's. That's a big deal. That's significant. Yeah. But this does feel like a next level moment. And I very much feel the spirit of this child working with me. Because there is a truth that I will not be able to go back to work after we don't know the gender. But I want to say her, like, after she's born, after they're born. It won't be the same. It won't be the same. And so, yeah, like, leaning into this portal of intensity and pressure, both in the opportunities that are coming up, the more clients and notoriety that's coming in, the cash that's coming in, the projects that I'm managing and really seeing this is like, wow, this is so exciting because my business is setting me up for my business, my baby, my spirit are all working together to birth this New reality. And I can see how this work right here is my physical birth prep work. Man, there's so much in there. So thank you so much. One little thing that I just want to point out is everyone make sure it'll be in the show notes. Definitely follow Emily on Instagram. You posted something recently about. I think it was about anxiety, where you were like, I can hold this, I can move this. I can reimagine what this actually is. And I think that that's so cool and so important to sort of. I feel like there's this thread throughout this episode that we're doing together, which is like, when we can come to a space of like, non judgment and neutrality and hold space for these big emotions, both highs and lows. Like, that's a really next level space to be in. Right? And I really resonated with that. It was. It was re. It was like. I've thought about it many times because I was like, oh, yeah, I did that the other day. Like, I. For some reason, this is. I'm gonna be very brief about this, but I had this weird thing that happens when my husband gets sick where I get panic attacks and it used to be, like, horrible, and I have no rhyme or reason why. Like, my intellectual self is like, he's fine. He's a man. He'll be fine. Like, it's cool, right? But some tiny little girl in me freaks the F out and, like, could sit in the closet in the dark crying and shaking if I were to let myself. But now I'm a mother and I can't do that. He recently got sick and I just had to ride it out. Like, I just had to be with that feeling and still function. Right. And so, yeah, it's really a really cool reframe. And I feel like that's a really cool part of what you're bringing forward is like, just the ability to be with it all and to like. Yeah. So thank you for that and please follow Emily on Instagram. And the other thing that I wanted to chat about is this is a really great lead in to like, the postpartum. Right? The postpartum navigation, let's call it. Because it's not like the first time you're a mother, things change. And then if you have more babies, you could stay that same person. Like, every single time. I don't have more than one baby yet. But every single time you give birth, you're giving birth to yourself again too, right? Um, and so, yeah, I'd love to just go a little deeper into, like how you conceive of postpartum? Like, what are some of the. What you know, either from the first time or how you're thinking about it now. Like, anything you want to share about that, like, flavor would be awesome. Yeah. Okay. I want to just speak to the anxiety piece really quick because I'm glad I brought that in because I said, oh, I'll bring this to a specific example so it can ground for folks. Do you know what reel I'm talking about that you did on Instagram? Yes, yes. Because it was right before. So I led like a lot or a thing. Right, Like a class. Yeah, yeah, I led this big. It was a ceremony. It was a rebirth ceremony called Overflow, which. Right, right. This. You can get the replay. And I knew this was the biggest thing that I had done in my career. It just felt so significant. There were 40 plus women paid to signed up to be there. Leaders, change makers, healers, mothers. And I also was. We don't do the whole backstory, but there was like a lot of different parts of me that I was bringing to the table in a bigger way. And I woke up that morning like, like, just like energy running through my body and old self would have been like, this is anxiety. This is bad. This isn't how you're supposed to be on the morning of a big event. Especially as, like, you're supposed to be regulated. And there's a lot of talk about regulation. You're supposed to be regulated. You're supposed to be grounded and Zen. And luckily I have this work. And so I was like, okay, cool. I don't have to label this as anxiety. This is a lot of energy moving through my body and this makes complete sense. I am doing something huge today. There are 40 women, if not like more eyes, because there's like, you know, whenever you birth something in online, like, there's more eyes than just who's signed up or who's commenting or whatever. There's all these eyes on you. And. And so instead of sitting in meditation right away, I like put on an upbeat song, which is just so not the vibe that I normally do in the morning, and moved the energy and let myself feel, quote, unquote, anxiety. But it was really just like, maybe it was excitement, maybe it was anxiety. Who, who really? It doesn't matter. Yeah, I just moved it. And then I was able to sit with more relative peace or clarity without feeling like I needed to jump out of my skin so often. And this is something we talked about in that Overflow workshop. The Shadow side of an emotion or an energy lives in our heads. It is energy that is moving anxiety, worry. It so often it is living in our heads. And if we can bring it. But this is especially true with, like, the. The other side of overflow or abundance is overwhelm. Especially true with this one is if we can bring it into our bodies, it doesn't. It doesn't feel overwhelming. It doesn't. We can transmute the emotion. And so that's like, just a really practical example. Next time you're feeling anxious, next time you're feeling that energy, maybe don't label it as anxiety. Just see what your body wants to do with it. It might be dance. It might be scream. It might be hit a pillow. It might be like, go for a run. And, yeah, it's such a powerful reframe. So thank you so much for bringing that back up, because I love that we have this tangible example for folks to root into and such a popular one. Such a. Yeah, I appreciate that so much. And I just want to say, like, that is a really big part of my own story, too. Like, I do not identify as having a chronic illness. I think it is important. An important part sometimes of a healing journey to identify with what you're going through. But then I do think there's a time and a place where one needs to rise above that glass ceiling and stop saying that story over and over again, you know, which is why anytime is like, someone says I'm an anxious person, I kind of, like, crumble inside because I'm like, no, no, no. Yeah. So anyway, that. We could do an entire episode on that. But thank you for bringing that back around. And. Yeah. Okay. So postpartum, like, another label, but I like this one. Yeah. In all transparency, like, I'm not planning for postpartum yet, which is kind of wild. I just started my third trimester, second baby, and I'm sure other moms will agree with this or, like, moms of more multiples. It's been a totally different experience. I did freak out a little bit, like, a week ago and order, like, 10 new onesies. But besides that, my focus in this moment, because there are these big projects, these big new offerings that are coming through me for my work. Like, that feels like the most important thing right now. And I'm very much in communion with the spirit of this baby. And, like, they've been in collaboration with me on that, the gift and the challenge of entrepreneurship. But I think mostly the gift is that postpartum gets to look whatever, whatever I want it to be. And one of the things that I'm birthing right now is a high level women's leadership mastermind. That is a high ticket product. It is a long, longer term, it's a year long program. And so that's part of my postpartum plan is to have this really rich, beautiful, incredible space that also supports our family that doesn't require me to show up every single day, that doesn't require me to take on a bunch of one on one cl. And yeah, that's, that's like my plan right now. I think as we get closer to the birth portal, yes, I will be calling in the support and the meal plans and the like, additional child care help. Like, we'll be doing some of that practical work. But so far the plan. Yeah, like, I feel like this is not a great answer. No, it's wonderful. It is making me think. But so far, like, my main priority is in like birthing this next level of my business that I know, that I know will evolve and change, but will also support me creatively, spiritually, financially, in that postpartum window. I think too, this might be helpful maybe for folks to hear, but with my son, I didn't book anything for a couple months and didn't really have any. I had like one low tier membership going, but around six weeks or two months, I wanted to do something. I didn't want to like be on Zoom for hours and hours a day or again, like take on a heavy load, but I wanted to use my brain and. Yeah, just really feeling this gift of entrepreneurship, of the Internet, of us being able to make our own ways that we can craft offerings, we can craft programs, we can create something new. And we're in that moment that really serves where we're at, the birth journey that we had, the postpartum journey that we have, the baby that we have. And yeah, so maybe just going into it with, I don't know, I'm not gonna know what happens. I'm setting up kind of this one big thing that feels like a baseline and then we're gonna see what happens from there. I love that. I think that's perfect. And I think it's, you know, I think that's the, that's the thing that I hope there's more of. Right. Like our parents. I'm gonna assume your parents didn't have social media when you were born. I think that's a safe assumption as you're not 12, but God, it's loud over there, right? Like it's so loud about, like, what you're supposed to do. And I think the thing that I've walked through, like, I remember this one moment, and it was. It's sort of a silly one, but one of Doug's friends, my husband, had sent this book called. It was like 12 weeks something or other. This, like, 12 weeks sleep plan, right? And it was basically like, how to get your kid to sleep alone in a room at 12, at 8 months, at 8 weeks old or something. And at first I was like, okay, I'll read this. I'll read this. Sure. Yeah. And I was reading it, and I was reading it, and then one day I literally woke up with this, like, fire inside of me. And I took that book and I walked outside and I, like, aggressively threw it in the garbage can. And I don't usually do that. Like, I'll donate a book to a library, right? But there was just this. There's. It was just this moment of practice. By the way, that was like a somatic release. Yeah, exactly. This moment of, like. Like, I got this, like, I'm gonna trust myself. Yeah. I'm gonna do research. I'm gonna, you know, do things that feel good and listen to other people that have come before me. But, like, no, you know, that's not the way for us. Like, this is not who we are. And so I think it's just so important for mothers to feel the agency to really lean in to what they're feeling. And it's taking us back to, like, earlier in our conversation, and that's what I've learned, is that, you know, there's so much pressure for babies to do things quickly. Right? Get to sleep by themselves, sleep through the night, eat da da da da. And Montana. My daughter has shown me that she'll do things when she's ready, and I don't have to, like, push her to the next thing. She's gonna change. Like, we were talking about that earlier. It's like, they show us that if we just, like, stay in rhythm and stay connected, then they're just gonna change on their own. And, yeah, there'll be things we have to support them with. But, like, really, it just kind of happens, right? Yeah. I love that this is looping back around because, wow, there's just so many things, one, I think, that are not in my mind right now with a second baby or, like, where my. My energy, my brain is currently at. And like, yeah, there's just so many things, like, so many realities of, like, sleep training and things that I'm just Like, so not plugged into. And I'm not saying we didn't talk about those things or think about those things with my son or that we will with this second baby. But the biggest postpartum, like, plan that I'm making is, one, like, what's my support? And two, is going back to that, like, I trust myself. I trust myself. And that doesn't mean that I don't question myself, but it does mean that I know or that I have all the answers. But you're not going to wake your husband up to consult. My God. So, so embarrassing. So hilarious. Oh, it's perfect. Uh, and, yeah, but there's just, like, this really deep trust. And I think with these times that we're in, and specifically with this baby, it's just been, like, this invitation to lean into the unknown. But the, like, ability to do that, the ability to lean into the unknown, is deeply rooted in. In my connection to self, in my connection to spirit. And so, yeah, like, trusting. I don't know right now, but I will know when I need to know. Yeah, I've really gotten that from the most vague. No, no, not at all ever. But probably better than, like, oh, here I'm going to come back to work at this much time, or I'm going to do this thing. And, yeah, I mean, my son still sleeps with us at two and a half years old. Same, same. And it's great. Love it. I love it so much. Yeah, I've really gotten that from you today. Like, I. I think that people listening will, too. Like, you seem very safe. Like, safe to yourself, safe to the people that work with you. Like, I can imagine as a client, I would really feel like you've got me. Right. And so I think that's just, like, a really beautiful quality that you've embodied through your journey. So I just wanted to share that with you. All right. I'm conscious that I've held you here for almost an hour. It's been such a wonderful conversation, Emily. Thank you so much. And I do want to give you a little space to tell people about some of your offers. They'll be in the show notes so that you can find Emily and her Instagram's awesome. Definitely give her a follow. I know I said that before, but, yeah, just tell us a little bit about, like, what you're up to, how people can work with you, all the goods. Yeah. So my offers and offerings are evolving day by day, week by week at this moment. So come find me on Instagram and you will see what is Currently on the menu. So Instagram and I also have a podcast that will be launching and we'll definitely have Cody on podcast is titled Birthing the New and it will likely be out when this episode is live. So you can find me, you can find me there. And I'm assuming that'll be on all the normal podcast channels. All the normal podcast channels, yeah. And we'll link to it if we can. If the, if it's out when we do this. Yeah. Just specifically, if anything in the like overwhelm, overflow or anxiety somatic conversation spoke to you, I would recommend checking out that overflow workshop. We can specifically link that. It's a replay. It's instant access and I am pretty certain it will change your life. So. Yeah, that's such a good word. Thank you for that. Well, thank you so much, Emily. I hope you have the most beautiful day and I hope your outfit is. I'm sure it's amazing. And thank you for. No, that's. I really appreciate that because thank you for showing us both the like badass leader that you are and just the like mother woman person that you are too. So thank you. Yeah. Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you so much for having me and looking forward to connecting with your listeners. All right, have a great day. Bye Bye. Thanks again to Emily. This was such a beautiful, raw conversation and I am sure you are all itching to connect deeper with Emily. 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