Create the Space with Cody Maher

Move it or loose it

Episode Summary

This week on Agency Wellness, I am excited to welcome Regan Rutledge of Regan Movement. As a classically trained Ballerina, Regan takes a wellness approach to movement. Through a unique blend of pilates, yoga, gyrokineses, gyrotonics and her own somatic intuition Regan helps her clients transform how they feel, move and look. By releasing tension and discovering new pathways to move with ease and keep the body young, supple and strong from the inside out. In this inspiring conversation we delve into topics such as: - The power of the breath -the prevalence of people living without connection to their body -How tech is affecting disconnection from the body - Aging and movement - Tips for connecting back to your body - Tips for moving as we age - Looking strong vs being strong - Common problems of popular exercise routines - Simple relaxation tips Please be patient with us for the first few minutes as we encountered some sound issues early on, but they do clear up so hang in there.

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Episode Transcription

Speaker 1 (00:04):

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Speaker 2 (00:05):

Welcome friends to agency wellness. The podcast. My name is Cody Mar after decades living with the diagnosis of chronic illness. I began to ask myself if this diagnosis, this label was really helpful. I started to challenge my own learned concepts, as well as cultural concepts of what it means to be well. I spent years studying all sorts of techniques and experimenting with different modalities. I took course after course and certification after certification. All of this amazing knowledge has enriched my life and informed how I care for myself and who I am as a practitioner. However, my greatest teacher and my most credible source has been and continues to be my own amazing body agency. Wellness was born out of the feeling that just like actors need agents to support and guide their careers. Sometimes in the wild, wild world of wellness, you need a health agent, someone you can trust to help you navigate the various twists and forks and bumps.

Speaker 2 (01:12):

You inevitably encounter as a human living in today's world who wants to feel well be well. Who wants to be, let's just say it happy and healthy. This podcast will help you expand your knowledge, vision, and practice of wellness. I'll be bringing you heartfelt conversations with a variety of experts in fields, such as naturopathic medicine, fun, Shu, life coaching, wo healing, psychic guidance, creativity, Pilates, and so much more. It's my hope and intention that from these conversations, you can begin to tap into your own unique and ever evolving wellness recipe. I'll be right here with you the whole way. So let's dive in

Speaker 1 (01:57):

Here you go.

Speaker 2 (02:04):

This week on agency wellness, I'm excited to welcome Reagan Rutledge of Reagan movement. As a classically trained former professional ballerina, Reagan takes a wellness approach to movement through a unique blend of Pilates, yoga, gyrokinesis gyrotonics, and her own somatic intuition. Reagan helps her clients transform how they feel move and look by releasing tension and discovering new pathways to move with ease and keep the body young, supple and strong from the inside out. Having personally worked one on one with Reagan, I can say from experience that along with her extensive knowledge and training, Reagan has a magic that can't be taught in this inspiring conversation. We delve into topics such as the power of the breath, the prevalence of people living in disconnection with their body, how technology is affecting our connection to our bodies, aging and movement, helpful tips for connecting back to your body tips for moving as we age looking strong versus being strong, common problems of popular exercise programs, the trap of the fitness guru, simple relaxation tips, and so much more bear with us for the first few minutes as we encountered some sound issues, but hang in there because the sound does clear up.

Speaker 2 (03:23):

Okay. Without further ado, please join me in welcoming Reagan to the podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:29):

Hi Reagan, how's it going?

Speaker 4 (03:32):

Good. How about you Cody?

Speaker 3 (03:33):

I'm doing well. Thank you so much for being here. I am so excited to have this conversation. It's such an important area of wellness, both in my own life and in so many people's lives. So again, thank you. Let's just start with who you are and what you do and in whatever way you wanna answer that today.

Speaker 4 (03:53):

It's an interesting question with an interesting answer. Um, I am a movement instructor, um, that has a wellness approach to movement. So I have I'm. I used to be, um, a professional ballet dancer, so an an athlete growing up. So I've spent my entire life using my body and I've done a lot of different techniques. And in my own studies, I've used a lot of different techniques, Pilates, yoga, somatic movement, breath work. Um, I mean that list goes on. Um, and I try to apply all of those principles as well as mindfulness and positive self talk. And, um, just general, you know, learning how to release work. That's a big thing, learning how to listen to your body, let go of, what's not serving you, whether that be physical or emotional and then building strength. And, you know, a part of building strength is also in your, in your self talk, in your, you know, it's like, you know, learning that like this practice it's movement practice is to give back to you and it's not to punish you in any way.

Speaker 3 (05:14):

That's such an amazing answer. There's so much to dig into that. So thank you so much. Why do you find that people most often come to you?

Speaker 4 (05:24):

Most people find me through somebody else. So, um, a friend of theirs and they are usually suffering or lost in some way. Um, some people know that they are and some people have no idea that they are, but it's still like this, like, oh, that person sounds like someone I need. Mm. And then they come in and they're pretty putty in my hands and I never know what I'm gonna do. And it's the person in front of me that kinda dictates where we go.

Speaker 3 (06:00):

Mm-hmm yes. And I have experienced your craft. I'm gonna call it a craft.

Speaker 4 (06:07):

I like that.

Speaker 3 (06:07):

Yeah. And you have an incredible, intuitive gift with bodies. You're able to see things and feel things and know what to do with those things, which is, I feel like a very unique gift. Um, and then you use your skills and talents to work with that. So I'm curious if this is something that you always had, like when you were a child, did you walk along the street and be like, wow, that person's left hip is, you know, blah, blah. Like, was that something that was innate in you or is that something that developed through your own movement practice and being a dancer?

Speaker 4 (06:43):

Well, that's, uh, so I guess there's two parts to that because I think you, um, like my intuition, my connection, like I've always been a very like empathetic human being and someone who is always connected on a different level energetically, so a sensitive one, but, um, but that doesn't, you know, that's not negative. Um, so I, I always saw in people's bodies, like, oh, their shoulders are always like their whole body's coning inwards, and always, you know, putting emotion with that. Like, I, it wasn't like, oh, her pets are really tight. That's what's pulling her for, you know, so that came later on. Um, but I was always able to for sure see things in people's body and, um, and, and see what was not working for them or working against them. Like that was like immediate. But now I through, you know, my learning and, you know, experience, I now understand many more dimensions of that.

Speaker 3 (07:58):

Yeah, for sure. And you said something really interesting there, when you were talking about sensitivity, you said, oh, that's not negative. And I feel like that's something that a lot of people resonate with. I'm so sensitive and that's so difficult or it's a bad thing, or they've been told they're too sensitive or whatever that is. So I'm curious, like, as you were, when you were younger, when you didn't have this knowledge that you have now, was that something that was difficult for you? Like, was it hard for you to understand why you were perceiving this, what to do with this information? Like how to incorporate that? I'm just sort of curious how it seems like you're someone who, you know, some people, it takes them a while to find like what they, what they're really in, in doing in life. And it seems like this was something that was with you. Sure. You molded it, crafted it, shaped it yeah. Through your experience, but this is something, it seems like you were born with. So I'm curious, like how, as a younger person feeling all of this and experiencing all of this from other people around you , I can, uh, relate to that. Yeah. And I'm curious how you manage that and how you worked with that.

Speaker 4 (09:05):

Um, so I'll say I definitely struggled with it. Um, sometimes I would put up like a I'm tough girl, you know, like I can handle anything. And that was like the persona just to protect myself. Um, I think with one on one with other human beings, like emotionally, I was able to kind of be a good support for them. And I was able to use my skills and my talents that way. But in more of a larger setting, it would make me very anxious. Mm. And if's like, for instance, a teacher, an authority figure, you know, their energy, like that could make me feel so small and crumble and you know, where someone, I really respect getting, you know, whatever. So that was, that was definitely a challenge with me and I, something that saved me was breathwork. Mm. And it's something I did not learn till I was older.

Speaker 4 (10:07):

Um, I was in this, you know, anxiety was something that was in my chest and in my ribs and it was holding me back in life. And it's something that I teach. Absolutely everybody. Um, it is a gift that keeps on giving. I even have clients like teaching their kids or their, you know, other people, which is really, really cool. But once I learned how to breathe and control my, um, my like energy and my Mo my setting inside the environment inside my body, so that I could just be myself and relax, um, that like really helped me is also learning when I needed to put like a shield around my body, a protective shield to keep me safe, which sounds a little hokey pokey. But, um, you know, there's an energy field around us constantly when someone walks in a room, like you feel their energy, whether it is, oh, like I wanna get to know this person, or like, oof, I need to get out of this room. so you can put up that energy field around you to protect yourself, because sometimes someone, your interaction with one person for 30 minutes, or even less might take all the wind out of you and that's your day right there. So I definitely had to work at this. Um, but it has, I mean, it, it has completely saved me and it's something I practice like, it's, you know, it's less effortful than before.

Speaker 3 (11:39):

Yes. And that sensitive person label, or shall we call it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, which, you know, I don't know exactly how old you are, but we're in some sort of range together. here. Yes. Yes. We didn't grow up. I'm I I'm the same way. Like I grew up feeling everyone else and not really understanding that. And it, it, I had a different journey of how I learned to live with that too, and work with that and how it became a superpower, but that's sort of, it's almost like it's innate in you to now do that as you work with people. So that's just really amazing. And I think like, everyone finds their own way to that, but this is obviously, I'm really excited that we're talking about this, because I think that that's what sets you apart from a lot of other people, you're not a mechanic necessarily yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:24):

I don't know. You know, so, so yeah. So thank you so much for sharing that aspect. All right. I'm so curious about so many things. So I, the other question I have, like, okay, so you're someone that was sort of in your body from a young age, right. And then you were a dancer and you're very involved with your body and a lot of people aren't right. And I'm curious when people walk into your studio or to your space, what is the level of connection you're seeing these days that people have to their bodies in general? Like, what is, what would you say that is? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:59):

A lack of connection. Mm-hmm I would say, um, it's, you know, I'm really lucky. I mean, now, like I'm filming videos and, you know, putting them, like, I have an online studio, so it's like, there's like I had to buy a new computer and then I also teaching virtually on my computer. So, but I, and I mean, like, I have a business, so I need a computer, but I pay someone else to do the stuff that, you know, doesn't serve me. And it's just not how my brain works, but I, I didn't have a computer for seven years after college because I mean, I had an iPad, but like, I, I didn't use one. I didn't need one. And I have this, you know, my phone of course, but like, I'm, I'm working, I'm moving all day long. I'm with people. I cannot be looking at my phone.

Speaker 4 (13:50):

Um, and that would totally shift the energy and take away from the experience. So I'm someone that is very, very fortunate through my life. Um, just through how my, um, what my job is, that's it. But most people are attached to their phone or the computer through work through life, whether they have to be communicating with their kids or their family or their job. And it just draws you in, it sucks you in, I mean, social media, like all of a sudden you're on the gram and like 30 minutes have gone by and they're like, whoa, how did that happen? I don't even remember what I thought. Um, but so like, I mean, you know, I'm, it gets me too, but like, people are so like out of their bodies and in their screens and they're in a completely different reality. So when that happens, you just, you aren't living inside yourself and, and then you have stress and trauma.

Speaker 4 (14:48):

Okay. So that pushes you out of your body even more, cuz it's too painful or scar or stressful to go within and feel that. And then we have, I mean, how with the pandemic and all of that, that's just like an extra level of stress that we all have been feeling. So most people do not live inside their body. Someone can come in and I'll say, okay, like anything going on in your body and what do you mean? Well, do you feel like, is something, is something like, do you feel back pained ever? Or do you have like a, a weird feeling in your shoulder or, you know, just like anything, um, how would you, how you feet connect to the floor, you know, just I'll come up with random things just to get them thinking. And they're like, oh, huh. And then it's funny.

Speaker 4 (15:31):

Cause after a couple of sessions with someone like, you know what, my back actually always does hurt and it's like, okay, great. Or, oh, you know, my ankle's been hurting. How long has it been hurting? You know, I think it's from that fall I had about 15 years ago. Okay, great. So let's, you know, dive into that, um, or I'll place my hands on someone's hips and they start crying uncontrollably and it's okay. Like, you know, what's going on here. And then the emotions that come up you've, you've finally had a moment with them to feel them and breathe through them and we survived on the other end and that is wonderful. So in many different ways, it was a long way to get to the answer. But, um, people, you know, they get there in their own way and everyone has their own story and that brings us to the present.

Speaker 4 (16:31):

And so it is how can we, um, how can we get you to start living? How can we get you to be aware of your body? How can we get your body to be a safe space for you again, to be, and to, um, connect with. I mean, we only have one body we're constantly in our heads and we're not able to listen to what is actually within us and, you know, spiritually, physically, you know, whatever, it's this, this constant, I can't remember from psychology, if it's the it or the ego, you know, that constant talk, talk that chatter. And it's like, we need to learn to push that aside. And then cause that chatter means nothing. It's just this distraction from going somewhere that is really awesome and powerful. Mm. And, and which is scary, but it's a good, scary

Speaker 3 (17:31):

I love this so much. Thank you so much. I love this direction that you're taking this conversation because I can feel someone listening to this feeling uncomfortable, feeling that disconnection and going, like, I don't want to be connected to my body. Why yeah. Why I wanna be connected to my body because yeah, you're right. Reagan, my entire life is on this thing and uh, I'm doing just fine and I don't have any pain that I can't tolerate cuz I've been living with it for 10 years and who even knows. So why would I even want to be connected to my body? And I think that I, I would love to hear your answer to that because I think there's a lot of people that just don't can't really feel that, how that would change their life. Like they don't, they don't make the connection that it's important to be in the body. And why is it important to be in the body?

Speaker 4 (18:22):

Well, there's probably many answers for that. You know, we, each of us as individuals, we have so much to offer and sometimes I think we see it as we have so much to offer other people, but we also have so much to offer to ourselves. And when we accept that and are willing and I want, I also need to cut myself off and say that Cody, this is something that I constantly am working on. Like this is a self practice of acceptance of being within me of, um, speaking kindly to myself, appreciating myself, um, as opposed to just knocking myself down. So, but when you're able to go that place and connect to that place, your life is gonna be so much better. And so many more doors are going to open for you. Mm-hmm so we can say emotionally, that's going to happen to yourself and to others around you, energetically, but also your body. I mean, we take it. It's just another thing that we take for granted, granted. And, um, we're so lucky, whatever we have, we are so lucky to have it. And we, when we move it, when we go to move through space, like it shouldn't be a chore to get off from the floor. Shouldn't be like, oh my God, it should be like, great. I can get off the floor. Mm-hmm

Speaker 3 (19:54):

Speaker 4 (19:56):

Um, when you go to pick something up, when you carry your groceries, I mean like I live in New York city. Sure. You know, groceries are heavy and we have to go more often, but like I can carry my groceries and I can walk from point a to point B. Not everyone can say that I am very fortunate that I can do that. And then when you start, like, those are, I, I wanna say little things, but they're not, they're huge things. Um, but once you start, you know, connecting more and appreciating what your body has to offer for you, then all of a sudden like movement, isn't so taxing and it's more joyful and playful. Like, you know, little kids they play around, they move their bodies in different ways. I was working with a man who was 85 years old and he constantly would say to me, every session, God, I didn't know that my body could move that way.

Speaker 4 (20:49):

Or I could do that. I'm like, how cool is this? You're 85. And you're still learning and moving in different ways and having new experiences. And that brings us to another point. We don't start appreciating your body until we don't have the facility we used to. And we're like, oh, I can't do this. You know like, oh, I don't wanna play tennis cuz it hurts me now. Oh I don't wanna. And like that sucks. Like why, you know, and it's, it's a practice, it's a self care routine. But if you just avoid, avoid, avoid, you're gonna regret it.

Speaker 3 (21:21):

It's such an important part of being well, in my opinion is the ability to move the ability to, and I'm not talking about incredible feats of strength I'm talking about. Yeah. Get up off the floor. If you're older, play with perhaps your grandchildren, those sorts of things. And I think that there's a, a program in our society and I see this with my mother who's in her seventies that trains people from the time they're 40 maybe or 35. Oh, okay. My body's gonna start breaking down now and I'm not going to be able to do the things that I used to anymore and that's normal and that's just the way it is. And I don't feel that way. Like my opinion is that the body, it doesn't have to age in that way. It doesn't have to become, my mom always used to say like, I'm just gonna be a crippled old lady. And I was like, can you stop saying that you're teaching yourself something there and it's, you know, some in some ways that's occurring. So I'm really curious to hear you. There's not really a question there, but I can see that you're also inspired by this topic. Yeah. So just go, just tell us about how you feel about the idea of how we have to age.

Speaker 4 (22:31):

So it, thank you. First of all, I'm of course aging is unavoidable. Okay. We get older and there's good things and bad things that come with that, but losing your facility of your body and being able to do what you love and move you absolutely positively do not need that to happen to you. Like you have control and power over that. And if you don't move it, you lose it, say it. So let's something if rotating your, so behind you and your spine, how often do you do that in your day? Most people, they just, they are forward and they move their, but that's, you know, if you're not rotating your spine and you go to play tennis or go to play golf or you know, all of a sudden you're in your car, your backup, camera's not working and you have to do it like, oh, like you have to keep moving.

Speaker 4 (23:40):

So and move in every single direction. Um, don't be afraid. Like I, when I, when I was younger and I would work with an older clientele, I remember I remember the first, um, older woman who wasn't even, you know, and I remember, okay, I'm not gonna put her on her knees cuz she won't wanna be on the floor. That will be uncom. Like I was babying her and catering to her. And that was completely the wrong way to go about it. I mean, did she have any knee injuries? No, she was fine to go on her knees. And um, then I remember, so then I was in um, Cal anyways and I was teaching a class with these two women who were in their mid eighties and they were as strong as I was. They could do all of the things that I could do.

Speaker 4 (24:32):

And as I got to know them, I was like, tell me, tell me all the things. And it was, it was very simple. I kept moving. I didn't stop moving. Mm. And you know, you have to be mindful of the movement you're doing. So I teach P like a mixture of Pilates, yoga, somatic movement, Gyrotonic, um, breath, you know, I'm teaching movement specifically that I see is giving back to the body for life of longevity. Okay. Like I am doing things that I'm teaching as a whole that is going to support your joints, keep your tissues and your muscles strong and supple and your range of Mo movement available to you. Now in a group setting, you know, I am guiding you and saying, all these things are good, but there might be someone that says, oh, you know what? This I'm actually a single squat.

Speaker 4 (25:27):

It doesn't feel good on my knee. So I can say, okay, we can work privately. And I can give you the strength to get there. In the meantime, don't do a single leg squat. Cause you have to honor your body. So the same thing goes with someone might really love tennis. Well, tennis is hard on your knees. Okay. So you do some cross training, some, you know, Pilates or whatever to give yourself the strength. So you can do what you love. But if all of a sudden, you know, like high intensity work or, well, yeah, I'll just use that. It's high intensity. So if you're just going to high intensity and like it's a lot, it's taxing on your body, it's taxing on your joints. If you are not doing cross training for that to support that movement, probably movement that, you know, you might hurt your knee down the road or you might, you know, so like, I, I don't think anything is off limit.

Speaker 4 (26:20):

I just think you need to be an intelligent mover and not, and also your intention behind movement is important if you go to the gym because you wanna lose weight or because you, um, anything like physical about your body, like, oh, like I just, my butt always so flat, you know, like, eh, not so great on there, but if you go to the gym and say, you know, I wanna, I wanna feel strong in my body. What can I do? And while you're doing things, you're not pushing yourself to the end degree you are honoring. Okay. I wanna challenge myself, but I also need to tune into what my body is saying to me. So this, this, um, treadmill, this doesn't feel great on my knees, but the biking feels really good. So maybe I'll do more of the, you know, it's like you have to be intelligent in your choices.

Speaker 3 (27:14):

Yeah. And I think sometimes, you know, sort of merging our earlier conversation with this conversation is that if you're, if someone's out of touch with their body, if they're not aware of how they're feeling, if they've just been going along and exercising, because they know it's what they're supposed to do to keep their figure or whatever their narrative is. And now they're reaching a point where things are starting to hurt. They don't want that to happen, but they've sort of put, there's sort of a lost soup in there, right? Like now maybe they're gonna change their intention of how, why they're gonna be moving, but they don't, they don't know what to do because they're not in their body. They're not, they don't have that dialogue, that conversation. So it's just, it's an interesting merge of where we started this conversation to where we are now.

Speaker 4 (28:00):

Yeah. And you know, I, some, I've had quite a few clients that I have worked with, including professional athletes who, if you saw them physically, you'd be like, oh wow, damn.

Speaker 3 (28:13):

Speaker 4 (28:13):

Yeah. Literally like, you know, I look like a fluff ball compared to them, but anything I give them, they're, they're shaking. They, um, their outer shell is super strong, but they're in, you know, their intrinsic muscles and basically how their quality of movement, their connection is, is not there. So it's, you know, with that, I go back and I say, and this is my advice for anyone. Who's like, okay, how do I get in your eyes and take a nice deep breath and then notice where that breath is. Did that breath go up to your shoulders? Did it go into your belly, did go into your ribs. Okay. Try it again, take a nice deep breath and just kind SI and go and then I'll take them to the next step of where I want the breath, which I'll just say now is 360 degrees in the rib cage, but you know, starting with the breath and with feeling, closing your eyes and as you breathe, just checking in and maybe just doing a body scan, like, oh, how does relax your right shoulder? Okay. Take a breath. And then exhale, relax your left shoulder, you know, going through each part of your body, from your head to your toes and then saying, you know, I still feel my right shoulder tense and then going back and just taking a couple of calming, slow breaths into that shoulder. So you're just trying to build a relationship with yourself and a dialogue of communication.

Speaker 3 (30:02):

Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:03):

And then that's, you know, that's a step that you'll always go back to. Like I try, I try for every single night I'm decent about it. I really am. And it's really hard for me. And I lay down and I either put my legs up against a wall at a nine year angle at, on a chair. And there's a couple of other positions and I breathe and I do different, um, breath work, um, variations, depending how I'm feeling. And some days I'm like irritated, stressed or anxious and I'll be like, oh, I don't wanna do this. And I'll get there. And I'm just like wanna rip my skin off. And I'm so uncomfortable being there with myself. And then it's like, okay, Reagan, you only need to take 10 breaths, just 10 breaths. And as I count through it in the first three, I am just like kicking and screaming.

Speaker 4 (30:50):

I don't wanna be here. I don't wanna go there. I don't wanna do this. And then all of a sudden, like at the sixth breath, I'm like, okay, this isn't so bad. and then by the time we get to the 10th breath, I'm like, well, maybe a couple more . So it's amazing how receptive our body is. And we have the controls and it is our breath. Luckily we don't have to always be thinking about it, but by slowing down our exhale, that's the main thing to relax our nervous system and take us out of that. What we're constantly in this state of fight or flight and take us into a parasympathetic nervous system, cuz both can't be on at the same time. So going, you know, getting out of that fight or flight that stress mode and into rest and digestion. I mean that itself, you know, sometimes I, I use the superficial, but like that will help with your metabolism and sometimes the superficial is, but you know, get people there. And I, you know, when I was dancing, my focus was okay, I have to look a certain way. I have to, you know, perform a certain way. So I only cared about those superficial things. And so if I was gonna spend 10 minutes at the end of my day, it would be something where I'm burning calories, I'm building muscle. And now if I only have 10 minutes, I'm gonna do the restorative work because I know that's going to give 10 times more to my body.

Speaker 3 (32:17):

Hmm. So, so good. And uh, I agree. I mean, that is the first thing. I start with people as well. Like no matter what you're coming to me with, let's get your nervous system a little more regulated because I've learned in my own healing work until I worked with my nervous system until I taught my body, which did not, my body did not know how to shift out of fight or flight was permanently stuck in fight or flight. Yeah. Which I'm sure you see a ton, a certain level of healing cannot happen. You can reach a certain level of healing stuck in fight or flight, but the deep healing, the deep transformation cannot happen in that state. And I think that it's such that your work is so powerful because you're going direct. You're in the body, you're in the breath immediately. So no matter what somebody is, that's listening to, this is struggling with whether they work with you directly and will give all those that information and you make it very accessible.

Speaker 3 (33:14):

Thank you. Um, it's sort of non-negotiable in my mind to do this type of work because no, again, like no matter what you're trying to heal that connection to your body, that devotion to your body is crucial. And I say, one of the principles in agency wellness is devotion over discipline. So it's not about a discipline. It's not about having to do this thing. It's about developing a relationship of devotion with my body. And from that devotion, then all of these practices feel different. They feel like a devotion and your evening practice sounds to me like a devotion. And sometimes you don't wanna do your devotional stuff, right? But the minute you tap into that, the minute you switch your mind from, I have to do this and I have to be thin or whatever it is to like, I'm devoted to this relationship to my body. I'm devoted to longevity. I'm devoted to being able to lift, uh, a child off the floor in my eighties, whatever it is. Um, everything really, really changes.

Speaker 4 (34:15):

It's also, um, a, an act of self-compassion. Yeah. Which is very powerful. And, um, it's all about whatever you're doing, being curious, being present and having an experience with it and then learning how to do that simple thing. Well, Hmm. Um, so in the beginning, when I work with someone and again, everyone is different, so you don't know where you're exactly, you know, it's where you're gonna start, where it's gonna take you, but we always start with rough work. And then from there, you know, sometimes people get annoyed because I don't, you know, I keep things really simple for too long because in that being, I'm seeing them working against themselves. So it's letting go, it's a practice of letting go. And then I'll have people that are like, I'm so weak. I have, you know, and I'm pushing them and we're doing things with this.

Speaker 4 (35:23):

Um, with this being that's maybe 10 times harder than like the strong, you know, whatever they're like, this is so hard. This is, you know, and their whole body's shaking. And I'm like, but you can do this. Like you are ready for this. So every person and every experience, wherever you start, first off, you're starting with your breast, just breathing and noticing. And that is a wonderful and powerful place to start and to continue. So, I mean, if we're talking about what I do with people is we start there, we release and then we build strength from the bottom up. Mm. Um, so it starts with simple exercises. Um, or, you know, I, I say that simple, but like for instance, I just redid a beginner series and I was simple exercises. I was sore mm-hmm um, the intermediate classes I was in sore and they're super fancy and hard. And the choreography short, but was connected. It was slow pace. I was thinking and instructing where the movement was coming from. And so I did a much better job. Doesn't need to, it doesn't need to be intense, like, whatever you like in your head come like the image of intensity be to get a lot out of it. And oftentimes, because we are all in this constant state of fight or flight and stress, the last thing your body needs and the is a high intensity, um, workout because your adrenals are probably already in fatigue and it's just gonna pull you further away from where you need to go. Mm-hmm

Speaker 4 (37:07):

And I mean like the results are, are gonna be a lot more, you know, the results of how you feel, how you move, how you look like any of those.

Speaker 3 (37:17):

Amazing. So I have just a few more questions for you. I know. Okay. I know you got bodies to tend to. Yes. Yeah. This is not meant as a negative question. So let's just frame it like that. But I would love to know, because I started this conversation. My experience of you is that you're very unique. I've never worked. I've worked with other Pilates instructors, yoga instructors, et cetera, you know, as a circus performer, I was also very physical. So I've worked a lot in my body and I've really never worked with someone like you. And I would love to know from your unique perspective, what is your frustration in the fitness industry now? Like what is the thing you see? And we don't have to talk about specific modalities even, or people, but what is the thing you see that you're just like, Ugh, no, not this anymore, please.

Speaker 4 (38:05):

Well, I guess there's two things and again, I, you know, do whatever you enjoy. So let that, you know, let me put that out first. Um, two things that make me a little GH, um, one is, I guess it's twofold. It's the focus on, you know, looking a certain way. That's only gonna get you so far. And I don't think it's healthy. I don't think it's healthy on any level. Um, again, like, sure, like when you move and you're active, you're gonna be happier with your body. You're gonna feel more confident in your body. And those are really important things. But, um, having the focus, being on a look, um, that may or may not be achievable for you, um, cuz we're all different and how our bodies shape are different. And if you were just pounding out in the gym to look a certain way, I don't think you'll ever be happy and I don't think your body will be happy. So, so that's like people

Speaker 3 (39:23):

Dancing

Speaker 4 (39:24):

so I think, you know, that's like a big thing and like sex cells and so like in fitness, you know, sex cells and like sex, you know, the whole thing whole works. So I mean, I guess, you know, hats off to

Speaker 3 (39:40):

Works to

Speaker 4 (39:41):

Point

Speaker 4 (39:46):

Rights' doesn't work for the point, you know, at a certain point you will burn out, you will go back to where you were and it will be worse. Um, you aren't serving yourself. I don't, it's all these gurus out there. These gurus are all knowing and we, oh, well they said this and it's like, do you know who this person is? Do you know what their experience is? Do you know what their training is? And um, and usually how I like, you know, I'll hear like something or a, a student of mine will say, oh, I took this class. And so, and so said this and I'm like, woo

Speaker 3 (40:33):

.

Speaker 4 (40:34):

That is really harmful. Yeah. Um, and I, you know, it's all around. So, so, you know, don't, don't listen to anyone a hundred percent and you know, your body is your guiding light and your intuition. And then from there, you know, do a little research when you're going somewhere. Um, but again, you know, do what you love do what makes it fun for you and makes it playful and makes you curious and present and feeling energized and good

Speaker 3 (41:10):

A hundred percent. Thank you for sharing that because I feel the same way. And I always tell people that you wanna find a practitioner that's number one, that whose number one objective is to connect you back to your own intelligence and to honors and respects the intelligence of your body as number one. So I think that, I love that we share that it's a really great tip and I'll just say my fun thing right now that I'm doing is, um, I'm learning the choreography for the party rock, Anthem dance. So, you know, can be really

Speaker 4 (41:37):

Fun. I love it. That's so wonderful. I mean, there's so many like simple things that we can, we can do that are, you know, bring us movement in ways that are, you know, are fun and like invigorating and different, you know, and silly and silly and Silly's good. Playful is good. It sparks creativity and gets, you unleashes a part of you. That's probably stifled in this every day, you know?

Speaker 3 (42:05):

Yes. Doesn't have to be all that serious people just,

Speaker 4 (42:08):

No. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:10):

So Reagan, yeah. What does wellness mean to you?

Speaker 4 (42:15):

Wellness is self care in all the ways. How are you giving back to yourself and treating yourself how you would want to be treated and you know, and you know, we, we live and life is ups and downs and we do our best and that's all we can do. And, you know, wellness is self care routine. It is something, um, I work really hard at. I'm not the best at, but I work at it. Um, you know, uh, like I've had clients say to me like, well, this should be easy for you. You know, you shouldn't be an anxious person or you shouldn't this or that. And it's like, well, no, no, no. Like I never claimed I was perfect here but, and I actually had someone last week say, God Reagan, you work really hard at this. And I said, thank you know, thank you so much. I really would appreciate you saying that. Um, because I do, I work really hard and again, like my best is, you know, really hard and that's good enough and that's all you can do. And sometimes it's making one positive decision that day. That's all you have in you. And that's great. You did that one positive thing for yourself.

Speaker 3 (43:43):

Well, I honor the work that you're doing and I know that there are going to be many people listening that really wanna find you and learn more. So that'll all be linked friends below here. I don't know where below is as I'm talking, but it'll be linked below what you're looking at on the screen, but for people that are listening and, and like to receive their information that way, let's just say, um, where can people find you? Where can make people connect with you?

Speaker 4 (44:10):

Um, well I, my website re R E G a a N um, movement.com. So I have a virtual online, um, studio, so it's on demand of classes. So breathwork classes, release classes, you know, all different levels, um, 30 day challenge, you know, stuff like that. So whatever you are looking for, um, to strengthen, you know, improve your posture, be aware of your posture, you know, um, rounded sh you know, literally over 350 classes. So there's that I know I've pumped it on out in the beginning. It was just like exercise movement classes for different levels. And then I could go into these fun niches. So it was, you know, I've had a couple of responses of like on Instagram saying like, God, I really feel like I'm getting the personal trainer experience and really changing my body. And so that has been really powerful and meaningful. Um, so yeah, and Instagram, I mean, you could always actually get into contact me that way. Reagan movement. And then I have a studio in Chelsea, New York, where in teachers here, so, uh, private and group, so

Speaker 3 (45:30):

Amazing. Well, thank you so much, Reagan. I will let you get back to working your magic and I appreciate you being here so, so much,

Speaker 4 (45:37):

So thank you. Oh, thanks for having me. It was a pleasure.

Speaker 3 (45:40):

Yeah. I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 2 (45:44):

A big, thank you again to Reagan Rutledge of Reagan movement and a big thank you to you. My friends for embarking on this path with me of exploring what it means to be well in this wacky world of ours. Lucky for us, Reagan has made working with her incredibly accessible besides her in person classes and privates at her Chelsea studio in New York city, Reagan offers a library of hundreds of online workouts. I'm a monthly subscriber to Reagan TV and trust me, your body will. Thank you. Reagan also offers a free trial week check below for the link to Reagan's website and Instagram to get started. If you like this podcast, it would mean so much to me. If you could take the time to subscribe, rate, review, and share it with some friends to show my thanks each month, I'll be picking one reviewer at random to gift a complimentary VIP consultation and a motion code healing. I also have a few spots left in my highly discounted summer gut health program. So shoot me an email or DM on the socials. If you feel like one of those spots might be yours, I'm excited to be with you again next week. Same time, same place otherwise known as every Wednesday. See you next time. Bye. Hi.